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Request - new code table term: arsenic #8406

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Jegelewicz opened this issue Jan 7, 2025 · 6 comments
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Request - new code table term: arsenic #8406

Jegelewicz opened this issue Jan 7, 2025 · 6 comments
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Function-CodeTables Priority-High (Needed for work) High because this is causing a delay in important collection work.. Technically Problematic

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I have an instance of detection of arsenic in/on a specimen and would like to add a term to the examined/detected code table. Although I only have one, I think this term could be used more broadly as many biological collections have tested taxidermy for arsenic.

aresenic - Arsenic is a chemical element with the symbol As and the atomic number 33. Arsenic is a notoriously toxic heavy metal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenic

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mkoo commented Jan 8, 2025

Noting specimens with or exposure to arsenic is a good one-- but sometimes it's not examined or detected-- we know because of part preservation method. Do we need to have the option of two places or just one to note this? (We need some discussion around this please)

@mkoo mkoo added the Priority-Normal (Not urgent) Normal because this needs to get done but not immediately. label Jan 8, 2025
@mkoo mkoo added this to the Needs Discussion milestone Jan 8, 2025
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campmlc commented Jan 9, 2025

If something was tested for arsenic by a specific method/person/date, it should be clearly specified as an attribute in the examined/detected code table. We may not know at time of cataloging that a particular part was preserved in such a way as to indicate arsenic is present. We certainly do not have that information for our collections. The attribute is designed to indicate a specific test or examination was conducted and results were obtained by said method/person/date.

@campmlc campmlc added Priority-High (Needed for work) High because this is causing a delay in important collection work.. and removed Priority-Normal (Not urgent) Normal because this needs to get done but not immediately. labels Jan 9, 2025
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campmlc commented Jan 9, 2025

Changing priority to high because multiple collections have an urgent need to add terms to the examined/dectected code in a consistent and timely manner.

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dustymc commented Jan 9, 2025

Do we need to have the option of two places

There is a near certainty that this would work like any other instance of denormalization: People would find one pathway, assume they've found all of the information, and never find the nth batch of near-identical information. I suppose some subtle distinction for the separation could be made, but the potentially fatal consequences of this seem wildly more important than such hair-splitting.

I do not think that this should proceed.

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we know because of part preservation method

My instance has nothing to do with part preservation. All I have is "tested positive for arsenic"

https://arctos.database.museum/guid/UWBM:Mamm:80797

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mkoo commented Jan 10, 2025

Given that it is already in the part attributes, part remarks, let's put this on the AWG agenda for next time so we can have a community discussion! Thx

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