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Request for contribution to the community r/StremioAddons guide #25

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sleeyax opened this issue Aug 21, 2024 · 4 comments
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Request for contribution to the community r/StremioAddons guide #25

sleeyax opened this issue Aug 21, 2024 · 4 comments

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@sleeyax
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sleeyax commented Aug 21, 2024

Hi, I'm the lead moderator of the r/StremioAddons subreddit and saw your post pointing to the Stremio guide provided in this repository.

Our moderator team just got started on a brand-new community guide to Stremio over at https://github.com/stremio-community/stremio-guide where we intend to bundle all information about Stremio, addons, debrid, torrrents, usenet, FAQs etc. in one public and open source place. We also use docusaurus and we would appreciate your help so we can avoid reinventing the wheel given you have already made great progress on major aspects of the guide.

So, would you be willing to either:

  • Help us out tremendously by porting your guide to the repo above (with proper credits, of course! There should be a way to display the authors of a page in docusaurus.).
  • Provide a license to this repository so we can reuse your work accordingly (we would like to pretty much copy paste + add credits to your work if possible).

Personally I would prefer the first option so you can commit it yourself and as a result be credited in the git history as well but I can imagine option 2 being more viable for you if you lack the time.

Feel free to join our discord server to reach out to me and the mod team so we can coordinate our efforts further: https://discord.gg/CbbaB3wfZ3.

Thanks!

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sleeyax commented Aug 22, 2024

Oh, I just realized your content is based on several other sources. Unfortunately we can't realistically credit all of it to you then.

https://guides.viren070.me/stremio/credits

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Oh, I just realized your content is based on several other sources. Unfortunately we can't realistically credit all of it to you then.

https://guides.viren070.me/stremio/credits

While the core information is indeed based on various references, I want to emphasise that the guide has undergone significant changes since its initial creation (the credits have not been modified since then). You can verify these changes through the git history. The only unchanged content is a small section on debrid services in the Technical Details.

At this point, I can confidently say that the guide is unique, with nearly every word thoughtfully written by me. The initial credits remain because they reflect the foundational knowledge that allowed me to create the guide. However, this does not mean the content was copied; rather, it was learned, synthesised, and then presented in a clearer, more accessible way.

It’s essential to acknowledge that creating any informative guide requires learning from existing sources. The knowledge I’ve gathered from these sources was crucial in developing the guide, but the way this information is presented is entirely my own. However, these initial sources still deserve credits, which is why they still remain there.

In response to your initial comment:

I'm open to sharing the information contained in my guide, as long as proper credits are given. I can add a license if you still need me to do that.

However, I won't be making any commits to the community repo and will continue making my changes to my own guide. This is because I prefer to maintain all my guides at my own repository in one place. I have no reason to move over to your repository when it would just be a copy of my guide.

I'd also like to point out that I made that post 2 months ago and it contained information that would've answered a significant portion of the community's questions. Despite this, my guide was not utilised in the subreddit. It was not given the Guide flair, it was not pointed to at all. It is subjectively the best resource there is to offer currently.

Given these circumstances, I find it surprising that, after 2 more months of outdated information in the subreddit, there is now an interest in using it.

That said, I’m happy to see it being considered as a resource, but if you intend to use it, I ask that you respect the effort that has gone into creating it by giving appropriate attribution.

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sleeyax commented Oct 25, 2024

Sorry for the late response, we discussed your reply internally but nothing really came out of it so we ended up postponing the topic.

There's a few things I want to clarify and apologize for:

  • I was too quick to close this issue and judge you for using other people's guides as references. Your explanation makes perfect sense and it's clear to me now that all words in your guide are your own.
  • We didn't intentionally ignore your guide if that's what you're implying. At the time you posted your initial thread to the subreddit, we were undergoing changes to moderation (new moderators and structural changes to the subreddit) so either we didn't see it or it flew over our heads due to different priorities.

Currently, we've pinned a guide written by one of our moderators as a temporary substitute for a more comprehensive resource. Unfortunately, there are concerns with directly linking to your guide as the sole resource for the r/StremioAddons community, including:

  • Lack of supervision from our moderators. Since we don't really know you, there's a risk that, one day, you - or, for example, a hacker who gains access to your GitHub account - could update your guide to include links to malware, and we wouldn’t be able to catch it before it’s too late.
  • The subreddit has a rule against discussing other streaming software. Your guide includes a placeholder to Kodi and links to other services, which directly violates this rule.
  • We would like the guide to look a bit more 'official'. It should feel complementary to the subreddit if that makes sense. Yours doesn't quite tick that box.

If you were to merge your Stremio guide with our community repository, all of the issues above would be resolved. Considering you don't want to put in the extra effort yourself (which is totally understandable), adding a license to this repository (preferably a permissive one like MIT) sounds like the logical next step. That way we can fork it as we see fit and provide all credits back to you. We will also include the link to your ko-fi page, don't you worry about that.

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@Viren070
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I'm glad we're on the same page now. I would also like to apologise for making assumptions.

I completely understand your concerns with pointing to my site directly. As you've pointed out, my guide is more of a blog/article which is not an ideal for an official resource.

There are a couple reasons why I don't want to move over to the community repository:

  • I would rather be in full control of the content of my guides
  • I would prefer to keep the link to the other app since those are my personal thoughts which I want to keep in my guide
  • Moving over to another repository means it wouldn't be available at my site anymore, which sort of defeats the purpose of the site.
  • Links that currently point to this site with the purpose of pointing to the Stremio guide become outdated.

I can add a license which will allow you to modify and distribute my Stremio guide at a fork under the following conditions:

  • My referral links remain
  • A prominent notice at the top and bottom of all relevant pages declaring that it is a modified version of mine, including a link to the site, my Ko-Fi page, and this GitHub repository.

If you are okay with these conditions, then I will go ahead and add a license.

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