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WEBVTT
Kind: captions
Language: en
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English (AU) (Spoken) [Manually Transcribed Captions]
github.com/WizardTim/WizardTim-captions
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Today we're going to be attempting a
repair on this here washing machine.
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This is a Simpson brand washing machine from
about 2010, this is part of their easy set range
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and this particular unit has a bit of a problem.
The fault condition this thing goes into is when
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you turn it on it appears to work perfectly fine
but after a few minutes it will just turn off
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but when you turn it off at the power outlet
after a couple seconds it will turn back on,
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and then immediately back off, so I'm thinking it
might have something to do with a power supply
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problem so this might be salvageable. So getting
into this there's just four screws at the back and
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we can take off this top plastic cover and we can
see here the line cable comes in it goes to a line
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filter a power switch and then that goes to this
here controller board which looks like it has the
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power supply on it along with some other things
possibly a VFD for the main motor there's two
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solenoids here for the hot and cold water and
then there's these two circuit boards here one for
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all of the buttons LEDs and the seven segment
display and we can see there's a buzzer on there
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as well and then the other one is just a rotary
encoder for the current mode so I'm suspecting
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our problem is going to be on this power supply
looking board so taking a closer look at that.
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We can see here it's starting to look very
power supply like, we have the mains input
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here with all of the filtering a bridge
rectifier a main bulk capacitor which is
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quite large actually although this chip here quite
large looks to be some sort of fully integrated
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H-bridge or motor driver and that's probably
what this connector here is going to that main
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motor at the bottom of the washing machine.
However we can see that there's a transformer
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here, a lot of capacitors and some sort of probably
switching transistor, so I suspect this here is our
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power supply and we also can see that there's a
controller here from International Rectifier
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which is probably the main system controller for
the entire washing machine or it might just be for
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the motor because there is that other board but we
might not even have to deal with any of that stuff.
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Also of note is all of these opto-isolators
and the fact that this has a transformer
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so we can be pretty safe to assume that
this is an isolated power supply and I
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can just probe around in this low voltage
stuff perfectly fine... or is it actually?
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So maybe, maybe I should take a closer look at
this before I start shoving my finger on that.
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So with the board out I'm really not seeing
where that isolation gap is I mean there's sort
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of something here but what's all these things
here going to the probably motor controller...
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yeah... and the other side is a complete mess like
where, where is this isolation? For reference here's
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an ATX computer power supply and you can see
that isolation gap is really obvious. So I
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think maybe testing continuity and testing this
bridge rectifier, yep the input is connected to
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this bridge rectifier directly and how about
the ground of this here crystal oscillator?
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Yep it's connected directly to neutral or at least
one diode drop through the bridge rectifier.
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So um yeah that, that could have been a bit of a
tingle I mean it is neutral but there's plenty of
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countries that have non-polarized plugs
and there's plenty of houses that have
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live and neutral reversed and I'm also not
quite sure what other high voltage stuff is
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on the supposedly "secondary"
side of this power supply,
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so yeah that's something to watch out for
in these sorts of consumer appliances where
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it's unreasonable to expect the end consumer is
going to touch any of the electronic circuits.
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And when you're working on stuff like this don't
forget to discharge the main bulk capacitor on it,
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this one's quite large i think it probably
stores around 30 to 40 joules of energy so that could,
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that could hurt quite a bit so now we can
safely take a look at all of these soldered joints...
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I'm not seeing anything here it looks all
good we can of course see that this board is
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nicely conformally coated so we can rule out any
sort of contaminants affecting the performance
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but the soldering quality on this looks quite
good and I'm not seeing any broken solder joints
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all of these surface mount devices also look
quite good none of them are tombstone none of
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them have cold joints. And on the other
side taking a look at these capacitors
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none of them are bulging, none of them
are leaking, they all look perfectly fine
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normally it's the capacitors because they are
electrolytics, even this one here right next to
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this transistor heatsink is perfectly fine so yeah
it might not be an easy fix like a capacitor so...
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So I guess it's time to whip out my secret
weapon, my thermal camera and looking at the PCB
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now installed into the device after about
five minutes it decides to turn itself off
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and going to the thermal view we can see that that
transistor is getting quite hot by the looks of it
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and coming in closer now I can see it's
not actually that transistor but this here
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DIP package device this thing
here seems to be the problem
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and getting the macro lens on it now we can
see this is definitely the problem it's got a
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massive hotspot on it and it is 128 degrees,
yeah this thing is not having a good day
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this is definitely not meant to operate this hot
because i'd expect at this temperature this FR-4
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PCB would be heavily discolored but, this, this
problem's only been happening for about a week
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so it's been caught early on so it's not had time
to damage the PCB. So yeah I'm suspecting this chip.
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Although it could be something like a fault on
the output is bringing this chip's output into
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some sort of short circuit protection but I'd
imagine there should be other hot spots and
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a very hot PCB trace so I'm suspecting there's
something maybe internally wrong with this chip
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taking a closer look at that chip it is this
one here and we can see the soldering on the
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opposite side is perfectly acceptable so
it's not that it's got a loose connection
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so taking a closer look at the chip itself
we can see it's one of these eight pin high-voltage
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DIP packages because it has this missing
pin here to get higher high voltage separation
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so I'm suspecting this might be some sort of
fully integrated off-line voltage switcher and
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looking at the marking I'm not familiar with
this logo by hand however the marking is "TNY278PN"
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and it appears to have been manufactured the
32nd week 2010 which makes sense for this device
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so I had a bit of a search round
and I found this here datasheet
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as it turns out this chip is from Power
Integrations this is part of the TinySwitch-III
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family which says it's an "energy efficient offline
switcher with enhanced flexibility and extended
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power range" and we can see here we have the "TNY278P"
which is either 16 or 28 watts depending on
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presumably the cooling capabilities of the
enclosure and taking a closer look into
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this datasheet we can see a recommended circuit
board layout which also includes a thermal check
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note which says that the maximum operating
temperature should not exceed 110 and further
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in the data sheet we can see there is a thermal
shutdown temperature of a 142 degrees which
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I imagine in that thermal picture of it being 128
degrees on the outside the die temperature was
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probably certainly over that and that would also
explain why this thing randomly turns on after
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you unplug it from the wall probably some sort
of die cooldown thing re-enabling the chip for
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a second so I'm starting to get rather suspicious
of this chip although I've just remembered I had a
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ATX computer power supply from my old computer
from 2011 that had a strange problem with what
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I suspect was the standby power supply deciding
not to work one day and if we take it apart we
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can see it has exactly the same chip it is a "TNY278PN"
however this one's from the 18th week 2011.
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now I never actually fixed this power supply
because I just bought a new one however at the
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time I was a little suspicious that this chip
might be a problem and with this new washing
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machine PCB I'm now extremely suspicious of this
chip so I think the next best step is to just
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buy a new chip and whack it in that's probably the
easiest thing to do to check if that's the problem
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and so I want this chip next day so taking a look
on element14 we can see the "TNY278PN" is available
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and it's only AU$2.64 so I shall buy some of them and
we'll see if we can repair it tomorrow although it
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will be the next second for you. So here's that new
chip it's the same package although the engraving
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is different we can see Power Integrations has
changed their logo since this one is manufactured
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the 42nd week 2021 so this should be quite simple
to just get the desoldering gun out... uh oh okay...
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So I guess the the desoldering gun has decided
to have a shorted heating element today
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of all days I want to fix this today though
so I guess we're going to be doing it manually
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and I can't find my solder sucker either so I
guess we're going to be demoing how to remove
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a DIP package and put a new one in with a
soldering iron and basic hand tools... oh goodie... [sounds of despair]
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Okay so firstly we're going to be scraping
off the conformal coating and adding
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some leaded solder to make my life easier, also
going to be very generous with the flux pen
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and I might as well give this solder braid a
go although I've never have any success with it
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and uh yeah no success with that so I guess it's
just going to be cutting the chip out just with
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a set of side cutters pulling it out and then
we can clean up the rest of the conformal coating
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and then it's just as easy as heating up the pad
on the other side and pulling out the legs.
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And now with that chip out we have to make sure that
we can put the new ones in through the holes but
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there currently aren't holes so this is a trick
for you if you're in a very desperate situation
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you can get the leg of a resistor and coat it
in a generous amount of flux as well as the PCB
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you can then heat up the pad you want to make
it sure it's very hot all the way through the
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view and to the other side and then while
still heating it put the resistor leg
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in, you want to make sure to get it in all the way
and then once you've got it in make sure to keep
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moving it and keep adding heat moving it up
and down until you get the entire leg coated in
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the solder to pick up as much solder as possible
and then inevitably when it cools down just keep
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moving it especially in a circular motion and
that will make sure that the solder does not
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bond with the resistor leg so now
you have a resistor stuck in the PCB
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but now the PCB has a hole in it so just move it
up and down like a file and eventually it will
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come loose although you do have to be very careful
not to damage the inner coating of the via that
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can be quite fragile and if you damage it then
that will be a very difficult repair however if
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you're in a bind that can be quite a good way to
get a through hole hole back to uh being able to
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put a DIP package in and it looks like this
has turned out reasonably well certainly not my
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finest work but for today in a washing machine
that's already 10 years old it should be fine
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so putting that package in now and
just soldering it on the other side
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uh yeah turned out well enough. And so I remember
that I've repaired this in the future I'm going to
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also put a nice purple dot on it and then I think
we can plug it in and test whether or not it works
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and so if it plugged back in it's now consuming
significantly less power down from 18.8 to 14.2
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and that hot spot is now completely gone and
we can see that that chip is no longer at
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the scorching 128 degrees it's now a much more
tame at 51.8 and this is after 20 minutes normally
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it would turn itself off due to overheating after
about five minutes and putting it on for a cycle
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we can see it works perfectly fine now so I think
we fixed it however you should know by now that
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me on this channel is not quite happy with just
fixing something i want to know exactly why it has
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failed so we're going to be doing some destructive
analysis on this chip to see if we can figure out
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why it's stopped working so with these sorts
of plastic dip packages you can heat them up
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in this case to 400 degrees Celsius and chip
away the plastic and expose the metal lead frame
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which you can peel back and you can then
remove the silicon die however in this case
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400 degrees was not hot enough or I didn't let
it dwell for long enough so I managed to crack the
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die so we're also going to be doing it to one of
the newer chips from 2021 and I'm going to bump
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it up to 450 degrees and uh make sure it's nice
and hot and uh that one yeah I managed to extract
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the die intact for that one so here we have the
two dies I extracted from the two separate chips
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I was expecting there to actually be two separate
dies in this chip for high voltage separation,
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one for the control and one for the actual MOSFET but
as it turns out it's just one big chip presumably
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that helps keep the cots down quite a lot
unfortunately the chip that failed I didn't heat
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up enough and it has exploded everywhere although
I managed to pick up some of the pieces I was
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hoping though that I would be able to get it out
in one piece and we could have a nice smoking gun
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skid mark on the chip where the mosfet exploded
or something really cool but unfortunately that's
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not going to happen today and the other chip I
managed to extract intact however I don't know
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what happened I didn't get it hot enough but some
of the plastic stuck to it so I have to chip that
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off and then sand it down although unfortunately
I wasn't able to consistently sand it very well so
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part of the side has come off. Also here's the
chip and the die appears to have been placed in
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this area here and in this orientation and that
correlates to the solder marks on the lead
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frame as well as the thermal image and the wire
bonding placement also makes sense for the pins
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so here are the two dies or at least what's left
of one of them and the other one and we can see
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that there's two very obvious regions on the die
one at the bottom for the quite large transistor
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and the area on the top presumably has all of the
control electronics for that, there's quite a lot
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of it as well so let's have a closer look at these
chips and see if we can find anything that might
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be wrong with them or sort of uh speculate as
to what the failure mode could have been seeing
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as I lost half the other one so taking a look at
the new chip we can see uh has a die marking here
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it appears to have the old Power Integrations
logo as well as the copyright mask copyright
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of 2007 so this design definitely
dates back to 2007 even in this newer chip
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and it appears to have been marking a "DS58F4"
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and that matches with the older chip as well that
has failed so presumably the die has not changed
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between revisions there was also this other number
on the top right of the new chip this is "DS58F"
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although the "4" is missing although I might
have sanded that off but I don't think so
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but unfortunately on the chip that
failed a nice little crack developed
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exactly where that number was so I guess
we'll never know i couldn't find that
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shard in the pile of shards left over
but I suspect it's probably the same
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and this here is one of the wire bonds for the
transistor this is either the source or the drain
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however you'll note that the large transistor is
actually separated into three separate transistors
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now this is important because I suspect this
may actually be a failure mode that could happen
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looking at the wire bonds we can see that they're
actually different between the two devices on the
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older device this is what the wire bonds look
like there are directly bonded onto the main
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area of the lead frame whereas the newer device
has a different style of wire bonding which is
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on one side of the lead frame so I'm
wondering if maybe they had an issue with the
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wire bonds failing and maybe uh one of
these transistor areas became unavailable
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which resulted in a high RDS(on) which caused the
device to overheat and that's why they changed it
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maybe? But that really is just baseless
speculation it could be as simple as
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they started manufacturing their chip at
a different semiconductor fab house and
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they just had a different wirebond machine the
lead frame is completely different unfortunately
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I've destroyed the lead frame in doing this and
didn't take a picture of it but unfortunately
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seeing as I managed to destroy the die of
the faulty device I guess we'll never know
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but I think that's a reasonable explanation
so uh I guess thanks for watching and I'll
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leave you with some video of the die of the
broken one it's pretty cool features in here.