Support microtonal accidentals for lilypond translation

[gesellkammer]

musicxml defines accidentals like natural-up, natural-down, etc, which can be translated to lilypond as seen here: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=784

[jacques-menu]

Hello Eduardo, Can you share with me a sample file containing such accidentals? That would help me a lot to add their translation to LilyPond. Also, what is your deadline? I’m busy finalizing various aspects of the implemention these days. A nice day! JM

…

Le 18 juil. 2019 à 12:46, Eduardo Moguillansky ***@***.***> a écrit : musicxml defines accidentals like natural-up, natural-down, etc, which can be translated to lilypond as seen here: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=784 <http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=784> — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#35?email_source=notifications&email_token=ABRJX6Q6GNLB3HEKN67VFPLQABCXPA5CNFSM4IEZMUF2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFUVEXG43VMWVGG33NNVSW45C7NFSM4G77BOHQ>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABRJX6WGYI2VWEDNGKSXQD3QABCXPANCNFSM4IEZMUFQ>.

[gesellkammer]

Here is a small example, which opens fine in MuseScore. xml2ly complains about <alter> being 0.25, and of course it does not translate the accidental to lilypond. Otherwise xml2ly is a great alternative to musicxml2ly, thanks for that

…

On 18.07.19 14:31, jacques-menu wrote: Hello Eduardo, Can you share with me a sample file containing such accidentals? That would help me a lot to add their translation to LilyPond. Also, what is your deadline? I’m busy finalizing various aspects of the implemention these days. A nice day! JM > Le 18 juil. 2019 à 12:46, Eduardo Moguillansky ***@***.***> a écrit : > > musicxml defines accidentals like natural-up, natural-down, etc, which can be translated to lilypond as seen here: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=784 <http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=784> > — > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#35?email_source=notifications&email_token=ABRJX6Q6GNLB3HEKN67VFPLQABCXPA5CNFSM4IEZMUF2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFUVEXG43VMWVGG33NNVSW45C7NFSM4G77BOHQ>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABRJX6WGYI2VWEDNGKSXQD3QABCXPANCNFSM4IEZMUFQ>. > — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#35?email_source=notifications&email_token=AAAT3NEOVFZCFLV4B55GMHTQABPBPA5CNFSM4IEZMUF2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGOD2IKEZY#issuecomment-512795239>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAAT3NGEJGND5QJTRWJCYZ3QABPBPANCNFSM4IEZMUFQ>.

[jacques-menu]

Hello Eduardo, I started to develop xml2ly more that three years ago to meet my own needs. Glad you appriaciate it. Looks like the attachment was missing: can you send it again? I’ll start working on that next week (attending a music workshop till saturday). JM

…

Le 18 juil. 2019 à 17:19, Eduardo Moguillansky ***@***.***> a écrit : Here is a small example, which opens fine in MuseScore. xml2ly complains about <alter> being 0.25, and of course it does not translate the accidental to lilypond. Otherwise xml2ly is a great alternative to musicxml2ly, thanks for that On 18.07.19 14:31, jacques-menu wrote: > Hello Eduardo, > > Can you share with me a sample file containing such accidentals? > > That would help me a lot to add their translation to LilyPond. > > Also, what is your deadline? I’m busy finalizing various aspects of > the implemention these days. > > A nice day! > > JM > > > Le 18 juil. 2019 à 12:46, Eduardo Moguillansky > ***@***.***> a écrit : > > > > musicxml defines accidentals like natural-up, natural-down, etc, > which can be translated to lilypond as seen here: > http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=784 > <http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=784> > > — > > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#35?email_source=notifications&email_token=ABRJX6Q6GNLB3HEKN67VFPLQABCXPA5CNFSM4IEZMUF2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFUVEXG43VMWVGG33NNVSW45C7NFSM4G77BOHQ>, > or mute the thread > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABRJX6WGYI2VWEDNGKSXQD3QABCXPANCNFSM4IEZMUFQ>. > > > > — > You are receiving this because you authored the thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#35?email_source=notifications&email_token=AAAT3NEOVFZCFLV4B55GMHTQABPBPA5CNFSM4IEZMUF2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGOD2IKEZY#issuecomment-512795239>, > or mute the thread > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAAT3NGEJGND5QJTRWJCYZ3QABPBPANCNFSM4IEZMUFQ>. > — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#35?email_source=notifications&email_token=ABRJX6VNISA2UTX4VVG2FVDQACCWNA5CNFSM4IEZMUF2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGOD2I2L6Q#issuecomment-512861690>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABRJX6VHQU2ZZSMKJTA5CT3QACCWNANCNFSM4IEZMUFQ>.

[jacques-menu]

Hello Eduardo, I’m now ready to add an option for arrowed quartertones in xml2ly, i.e. with alter different that 0.5. Can you send me an example file to be used for testing? Thanks! JM

…

Le 18 juil. 2019 à 12:46, Eduardo Moguillansky ***@***.***> a écrit : musicxml defines accidentals like natural-up, natural-down, etc, which can be translated to lilypond as seen here: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=784 <http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=784> — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#35?email_source=notifications&email_token=ABRJX6Q6GNLB3HEKN67VFPLQABCXPA5CNFSM4IEZMUF2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFUVEXG43VMWVGG33NNVSW45C7NFSM4G77BOHQ>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABRJX6WGYI2VWEDNGKSXQD3QABCXPANCNFSM4IEZMUFQ>.

[gesellkammer]

Here is a musicxml with multiple arrowed quartertones.

…

On 19.08.19 17:29, jacques-menu wrote: Hello Eduardo, I’m now ready to add an option for arrowed quartertones in xml2ly, i.e. with alter different that 0.5. Can you send me an example file to be used for testing? Thanks! JM > Le 18 juil. 2019 à 12:46, Eduardo Moguillansky ***@***.***> a écrit : > > musicxml defines accidentals like natural-up, natural-down, etc, which can be translated to lilypond as seen here: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=784 <http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=784> > — > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#35?email_source=notifications&email_token=ABRJX6Q6GNLB3HEKN67VFPLQABCXPA5CNFSM4IEZMUF2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFUVEXG43VMWVGG33NNVSW45C7NFSM4G77BOHQ>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABRJX6WGYI2VWEDNGKSXQD3QABCXPANCNFSM4IEZMUFQ>. > — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#35?email_source=notifications&email_token=AAAT3NEIW24W5WTLBPAV273QFK37DA5CNFSM4IEZMUF2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGOD4TLAGA#issuecomment-522629144>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAAT3NDP5HA47HLMZCU76EDQFK37DANCNFSM4IEZMUFQ>.

[jacques-menu]

Hello Eduardo, Sorry, but there’s no attachment in you message. Is that a mail problem on your side? JM

…

Le 20 août 2019 à 00:57, Eduardo Moguillansky ***@***.***> a écrit : Here is a musicxml with multiple arrowed quartertones. On 19.08.19 17:29, jacques-menu wrote: > Hello Eduardo, > > I’m now ready to add an option for arrowed quartertones in xml2ly, > i.e. with alter different that 0.5. > > Can you send me an example file to be used for testing? > > Thanks! > > JM > > > Le 18 juil. 2019 à 12:46, Eduardo Moguillansky > ***@***.***> a écrit : > > > > musicxml defines accidentals like natural-up, natural-down, etc, > which can be translated to lilypond as seen here: > http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=784 > <http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=784> > > — > > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#35?email_source=notifications&email_token=ABRJX6Q6GNLB3HEKN67VFPLQABCXPA5CNFSM4IEZMUF2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFUVEXG43VMWVGG33NNVSW45C7NFSM4G77BOHQ>, > or mute the thread > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABRJX6WGYI2VWEDNGKSXQD3QABCXPANCNFSM4IEZMUFQ>. > > > > — > You are receiving this because you authored the thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#35?email_source=notifications&email_token=AAAT3NEIW24W5WTLBPAV273QFK37DA5CNFSM4IEZMUF2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGOD4TLAGA#issuecomment-522629144>, > or mute the thread > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAAT3NDP5HA47HLMZCU76EDQFK37DANCNFSM4IEZMUFQ>. > — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#35?email_source=notifications&email_token=ABRJX6U4AORZIUWW7VLAMLTQFMQMVA5CNFSM4IEZMUF2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGOD4URCMI#issuecomment-522785073>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABRJX6XBIGI6WUY6UMLT2STQFMQMVANCNFSM4IEZMUFQ>.

[smoge]

I’m now ready to add an option for arrowed quartertones in xml2ly, i.e. with alter different that 0.5. Can you send me an example file to be used for testing? Thanks!

@jacques-menu @gesellkammer @dfober

The new musicxml standard has several options for microtones, and an option to indicate any smulf glyph (<xs:enumeration value="other"/>).

But, at the same time, this does not eliminate the use of

-- See: https://github.com/w3c/musicxml/issues/263
-- <accidental smufl="accidentalFlatThreeArrowsUp">other</accidental>

-- https://www.w3.org/2021/06/musicxml40/musicxml-reference/data-types/accidental-value/

-- musicxmlxsd line 1521

-- <xs:simpleType name="accidental-value">
-- 	<xs:annotation>
-- 		<xs:documentation>The accidental-value type represents notated accidentals supported by MusicXML. In the MusicXML 2.0 DTD this was a string with values that could be included. The XSD strengthens the data typing to an enumerated list. The quarter- and three-quarters- accidentals are Tartini-style quarter-tone accidentals. The -down and -up accidentals are quarter-tone accidentals that include arrows pointing down or up. The slash- accidentals are used in Turkish classical music. The numbered sharp and flat accidentals are superscripted versions of the accidental signs, used in Turkish folk music. The sori and koron accidentals are microtonal sharp and flat accidentals used in Iranian and Persian music. The other accidental covers accidentals other than those listed here. It is usually used in combination with the smufl attribute to specify a particular SMuFL accidental. The smufl attribute may be used with any accidental value to help specify the appearance of symbols that share the same MusicXML semantics.</xs:documentation>
-- 	</xs:annotation>
-- 	<xs:restriction base="xs:string">
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="sharp"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="natural"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="flat"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="double-sharp"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="sharp-sharp"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="flat-flat"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="natural-sharp"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="natural-flat"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="quarter-flat"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="quarter-sharp"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="three-quarters-flat"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="three-quarters-sharp"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="sharp-down"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="sharp-up"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="natural-down"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="natural-up"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="flat-down"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="flat-up"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="double-sharp-down"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="double-sharp-up"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="flat-flat-down"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="flat-flat-up"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="arrow-down"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="arrow-up"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="triple-sharp"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="triple-flat"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="slash-quarter-sharp"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="slash-sharp"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="slash-flat"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="double-slash-flat"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="sharp-1"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="sharp-2"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="sharp-3"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="sharp-5"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="flat-1"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="flat-2"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="flat-3"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="flat-4"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="sori"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="koron"/>
-- 		<xs:enumeration value="other"/>
-- 	</xs:restriction>
-- </xs:simpleType>