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Syloti Nagari, issue with ꠜ, ꠖꠥ, ꠦ, ꠧ #3

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Sagir8453 opened this issue Dec 4, 2018 · 4 comments
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Syloti Nagari, issue with ꠜ, ꠖꠥ, ꠦ, ꠧ #3

Sagir8453 opened this issue Dec 4, 2018 · 4 comments

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@Sagir8453
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Sagir8453 commented Dec 4, 2018

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The Syloti Nagari character ꠜ (bh) looks too similar to ꠘ (n). The character ꠖ (d) should be nicely connected to the diacritic ꠥꠥ (u).
(Actually in most Sylheti handwritings, the diacritic on all consonants is not connected, but since in this font the diacritics is connected, it should work nicely for ꠖ)
The diacritic of "e": ꠦ should be unconnected to the consonants, similar to the diacritic ꠂꠂ, as in ꠔꠂ, so not connected like ꠔꠦ.. same for the diacritic ꠧ, it should be unconnected. Mostly a different shape of the letter ꠀ "A" is used, but that's perhaps Unicode's job, though it can be added in the non horizontal line font. Shown in the screenshots. I will highlight if needed.

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NotoSansSylotiNagari-Regular.ttf.

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Current available on github 4/12/2018

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The ꠜ (bh) is in the 5th line of consonants. The unconnected diacritic of "e" is in the last line as "ke" ꠇꠦ. Also notice the unconnected "u" diacritic in both images.
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Here in the 7th line you can see the "bh" with diacritic "u".

@simoncozens
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I fixed the last three parts (ꠖꠥ, ꠦ, ꠧ) but will ask someone to draw a new ꠜ .

simoncozens added a commit that referenced this issue May 21, 2024
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@PaulHanslow
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PaulHanslow commented Sep 5, 2024

@simoncozens, can you confirm if the ꠜ SYLOTI NAGRI LETTER BHO (U+A81C) or if the ꠘ SYLOTI NAGRI LETTER NO (U+A818) requires a redesign? The above post from @Sagir8453 stated these characters are too similar in appearance but I'm failing to know which one needs updating by lowering the top curve to meet the stem in a lower position.

@simoncozens
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It's BHO which we need to redesign; the loop should be tighter and slightly nearer the stem, and the tail of the loop come further around. (The tail currently comes out of the loop at 11 o'clock, and heads west, but it should keep curling around until it is heading south-west.)

Kind of like this, just not horrible:

Screenshot 2024-09-06 at 10 46 42

@Sagir8453
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Hi. Thanks for considering the issue. I've also made some suggestions (in red)
sketch-1725710242681

The first two match with the width of ꠇ and ꠗ. Both of these shapes are found in manuscripts. Like the 1st one can be seen here:
Screenshot_2024-09-07-17-43-19-64_e2d5b3f32b79de1d45acd1fad96fbb0f
Screenshot_2024-09-07-17-43-52-61_e2d5b3f32b79de1d45acd1fad96fbb0f

The 2nd one in here:
IMG_20240907_173506
Screenshot_2024-09-07-17-41-06-45_e2d5b3f32b79de1d45acd1fad96fbb0f

The other two are variations.

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