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Maninpasta minutes: OntologyDesign#1 #7

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albertmeronyo opened this issue Apr 6, 2021 · 9 comments
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Maninpasta minutes: OntologyDesign#1 #7

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albertmeronyo commented Apr 6, 2021

Issue to discuss progress in OntologyDesign#1, focusing on ontologies to describe modes and modal analysis

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mwigham commented Apr 6, 2021

Concepts collected in this document

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OntologyDesign#1 drafting

Relevant concepts in the CQs of Sethus

  • Formula
    • Mode
      • Dorian
      • Phrygian
      • Lydian
      • Mixolydian
    • Tonus Peregrinus (maybe an instance?)
  • Interval
  • Phrase (beware of “fragment” and “segment” and “part”)
  • Mode assignment (similar pattern exists in ArCo)
  • Modal hypothesis
    • For entire composition
    • For part of composition
  • Theoretical model
    • Zarlinian cadential scheme ^1-^3-^5
  • Analytical point of view
  • Observation of criteria
  • Criteria for mode (better name?)
    • Objective criteria
    • Subjective criteria
  • Musical notation
    • Score
  • Part (or Voice)
    • Bassus
    • Tenor
    • Cantus
    • Altus
  • Range of voices
  • Clef of part
  • Key of part
  • Final of the bassus
  • Composition (= work in this case)
    • Motet (mainly vocal musical composition)
  • Analysis
  • Researcher
  • Work
  • Hexachord (instead of modern scale)
  • Pattern associated to modes
    • Melodic
    • harmonic
    • Cadence point (tension resolution)

“Scale” discussion:

  • They didn’t have scales as we know them today; they had hexachords (they coincide with the modern 1-2-3-4-5-6 in modern scales)

Models:

  • These are never exact

Patterns:

  • partOf (composition - fragments, segments, etc.) - mode can be assigned to both the whole and its parts, separately.
  • Interpretation - tonalities assignment
  • Description & Situation: observation - interpretation - classification
    • Mode
    • Part’s ranges -> Modal octaves
  • Mode is a Description (a way to organise pitches, it has feature e.g. model octave is a feature of a mode)

Scope question (for later):

  • What parts of the CQs should the ontology support?

Relevant ontologies:

Next steps:

  • Specialise the patterns according to/using the terminology/taxonomy
  • Analyse the next competency questions
  • Sync with Sethus story’s authors
  • Identify alignments/reuse (see relevant ontologies)

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2nd maninpasta: Marco's work on requirements for a Modal Ontology https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1odOcpU8E7eFmCyhcgy-uLMqMGzwC6h_ned0Rfex2Xx0/edit#gid=0

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2nd maninpasta: we came up with a graffoo diagram for an ontology of musical theories for analysis (also at the SharePoint > Maninpasta > Sethus)

Sethus1ConflictingTheoreticalInterpretations-Page-1

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Session 14-05-2021: Absolutely brilliant first draft for a modal tonal ontology by Christophe and Marco at https://github.com/guillotel-nothmann/modal-tonal-ontology/tree/main/historicalModels

Instances of the ontology will typically (but not always) be segments/fragments pointing at some section of an MEI document

AP: discuss ontology engineering issues around this draft in the OntologyDesign working sessions

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The ontology is an interpretation of the Michael Praetorius book http://diglib.hab.de/drucke/1-1-musica-3s/start.htm?image=0053
It's digitised at Huma at http://tmg.huma-num.fr/xtf/view?docId=tei/Praetorius%201619/Praetorius%201619.xml;chunk.id=div_2_3_6;toc.depth=1;toc.id=div_2_3;brand=default#X
Christophe has an article about it at https://www.gmth.de/zeitschrift/artikel/1073.aspx

Ontology contains provenance links to sections of the book that were used to model concepts

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Challenge: distinction between classes and individuals (instances)

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Documenting classes and relations

Pointer to W3C PROV: idea of "trusted ontology engineering" with full provenance traces of decisions made during conceptualisation

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Pointer to https://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/ Container Classes to model multiple interpretations over the source, possibly with order

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